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Re: All these discussions about meeting venues

2010-08-29 17:06:16
I was in Paris and was certainly well aware of the issues with regards
to theft.  Personally, I imagine that emotionally and physically
recovering from the theft of personal property (as frustrating and as
upsetting as I know I would find that to be) is significantly less
traumatic than recovering from a physical, in particular sexual
assault.  Again, the female perspective has it's own set of issues
that has the potential to make a physical attack much more life
impacting than it does a male, which might be why there seems to be
difficulty in understanding the point I raise.  I already have two
kids (now teenagers, which may be why I seem to be able to debate ad
naseum on topics such as this) and I really don't want to have to deal
with a third (or the alternative choice relate thereto which is a
choice I personally could not make).

Mary.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja(_at_)bogus(_dot_)com> 
wrote:
On 8/29/10 2:03 PM, Mary Barnes wrote:
Personally, I don't routinely travel to places where my safety is put
at risk.  The first and most important step for self defense is
avoidance. My participation in the meeting precluded me from avoiding
the situations.

My point overall is actually quite simple - none of these things are
issues if the meetings are held in larger international cities or
secondary cities where everything is nearby.

I recommend you scroll back through your meeting archives to Paris,
reread, and reconsider that statement in light of events as they transpired.

Tegarding the incident of property crime in paris vs mastricht.

I lost equipment out of the venue during the week of setup in the
netherlands, this a rare but not entirely unexpected event, normally we
expect san francisco for example to be a bigger problem in this regard
(and it was during the last nanog meeting held there). mitigating this
exposure entirely is infeasible, but if the attrition rate exceedes our
ability to replace it then we have a problem. That didn't happen,
observably, once the particpants descended en masse the local
troglodites went back to their caves.

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