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RE: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD

2013-03-06 15:36:52
Mary,

As a potential nominee I considered the questionnaire to be a barrier to entry 
and as a NomCom member I considered the questionnaire answers to be useless.  

Irrespectively Yours,

John


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of
Mary Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:22 PM
To: Eric Gray
Cc: Bob Hinden; dcrocker(_at_)bbiw(_dot_)net; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD

Eric,

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Eric Gray 
<eric(_dot_)gray(_at_)ericsson(_dot_)com>
wrote:
Bob,

        This confuses me.  Are you saying that you would be more able
to give feedback on someone you don't know if you knew what they
might have to say about themselves?

        I would think that - if you don't know somebody - you can't
give feedback on them (and that is precisely as it should be).
[MB] This then begs the question in my opinion as to how Nomcom can
evaluate nominees from the questionnaires then?

Also, As I noted in my previous response, even when you know someone
you likely don't know everything about what they have accomplished or
you have forgotten some things.  [/MB]

--
Eric

-----Original Message-----
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Of Bob Hinden
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:45 PM
To: dcrocker(_at_)bbiw(_dot_)net
Cc: Bob Hinden; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD

Hi,

Just to be clear:  I am not suggesting public discussion.  I'm
suggesting that candidates make their responses available to the
community, so the community can have additional information for
providing feedback to the Nomcom.

I agree with Dave on this.

I try to give feedback on the NomCom lists of candidates.  For people
I know, I can do this, for people I don't know well it's difficult.  It
would help me if I could read some of the material they submitted with
their acceptance of the nomination to see why they want the job, and
their qualifications and experience.

The IETF has grown a lot over the years to the point where most
people don't know all of the candidates.

Bob