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Re: IETF Meeting in South America

2013-05-24 12:14:05
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lou Berger" <lberger(_at_)labn(_dot_)net>
To: "Yoav Nir" <ynir(_at_)checkpoint(_dot_)com>
Cc: <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: IETF Meeting in South America


For Americans, is it much more expensive than a trip to Prague?

I just happen to be looking at flights for berlin at the moment.  BA
is
pretty much the same +-$1600 if I'm willing to take an extra hop,
closer
to $2K for one hop.

I generally find going to Europe in the summer to be pretty expensive
so
am not sure this is the best comparison.  As metioned elsewhere in
this
thread, time of year does matter.

I personally am a big fan for going to uninteresting locations in
their
off season. Although, perhaps I'm alone in liking Minneapolis in the
winter as an IETF destination...

No, it is my favourite too (although Atlanta runs it close).  I would
not recommend London in the winter though, as it can be short of snow
ploughs:-(

Tom Petch

Lou

On 5/24/2013 11:28 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
I used Expedia to price flights for me on March 2014:
 - Buenos Aires: $1401 (21h each way)
 - London (where the meeting actually happens): $413 (7h each way.
Direct costs a bit more)
 - Vancouver: $1217 (24 h each way????? $1288 with a more reasonable
16h)
 - Honululu: $1535 (28h each way)
 - Melbourne (to minimize the pain for Mark): $2155 (36h)
 - Minneapolis: $1020 (18h)

So Buenos Aires is not much more painful than some other
destinations we've been talking about, and I believe the same will be
true for most Europeans. For Americans, is it much more expensive than a
trip to Prague?

Yoav

On May 24, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Michael Richardson
<mcr+ietf(_at_)sandelman(_dot_)ca> wrote:


"The" == The IAOC <bob(_dot_)hinden(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> writes:
   The> The venues are in Buenos Aires.  They meet our requirements
for the meeting
   The> space, networking, nearby restaurants and bars, hotel room
rates in the mid $200
   The> dollar range, nearby alternate hotels at a broad range of
prices, nice area in the
   The> city, safe, direct international flights, and accessible
visas.  The IAOC thinks we
   The> could have a successful IETF meeting in Buenos Aires and
that attendees would
   The> like the venues.

My question is about whether we would be there during the "peak"
season,
and when exactly is that season?

I priced flights for me in July, November and March (2014).
It seems that most flights go through Santiago or Sao Paulo, one
went
through Atlanta.  The lowest cost flight for me is similiar to
travel to
Europe not in the summer,  but the price rises quite quickly to the
$4K
range.  The worse rise seems to be March, but that was also the
furthest
in the future.

   The> Things to consider are that it will be a long trip for the
majority of IETFers and the
   The> air fares are more expensive (about 10% to 20% higher than
average), though
   The> restaurants are less expensive.  This would be a case where
most IETFers would
   The> bear more travel pain and expense.

What are the hotel costs?
(I fund my own attendance)

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