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On 6/12/13 12:44 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
On 6/12/13 12:38 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
On 12/06/2013 15:16, ned+ietf(_at_)mauve(_dot_)mrochek(_dot_)com wrote:
Dave Cridland wrote:
I strongly feel that positive statements have value, as they
allow the community to gauge the level of review and
consensus, and I suspect that human nature means that we get
more reviews if people get to brag about it.
Agreed 100%.
But also consider the likely effect of calling certain
comments "useless".
Discussions like this don't exactly fire me up with enthusiasm
to expend additional time reviewing and commenting on documents
not directly related to what I do. And I rather doubt I'm alone
in this.
You are not alone. I do occasional reviews of documents not
directly related to what I do. But I hate paperworks. And if I
would be required to fill in 10 pages questionnaire about why I
think the document is in a good shape, I probably will stop
doing such reviews altogether.
Much as I love Pete, IMHO this thread started because in good
curmudgeonly style he needed something to grump at. In this
instance, I suggest we just keep doing what we've always been
doing.
To clarify:
I reject kings, presidents, and voting. But I do believe in the delete
key.
If you think that these "+1" messages are useless, don't factor them
into your thinking about whether we have consensus.
If you think that these "+1" messages are actively harmful (e.g., by
leading to groupthink or poisoning our very understanding of what it
means for us to reach consensus), then proceed as Pete is proceeding.
I think these messages are useless, not harmful. But perhaps I have
more confidence in the inherent skepticism of your average IETF
participant than Pete does...
Peter
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Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/
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