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Re: Time to move beyond the 32 bit Internet.

2014-06-25 14:53:08
Phillip, I still deal in a RS232 dial up market that is "mission critical" at 
every segment of the market place; from the hobbyist to mom&pop, to small to 
large commercial and government, level operational communications needs.   
Change is slow and as long as it remains cost effective and automatic with low 
support needs, etc, it's going to take a long time to dismantle the long time 
established infrastructure.

I do feel there needs to be better education, not for the end-user, but for the 
communications market engineers, people like myself, those that develop and 
maintain the unified virtual communications applications.  We also need funding 
and grants to assist with the migration.  But in all honesty, their really 
hasn't been any market pressure to change and I doubt the ISP is going to take 
a chance with tortious interference lawsuits by long time well establishment 
businesses.

I do agree the NAT should of been used as a carrot toward ipv6 in the same way 
i feel author domain policy should be used as a DKIM carrot to help establish a 
non-existing 3rd party trust market.   

--
Hector Santos
http://www.santronics.com

On Jun 25, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker 
<phill(_at_)hallambaker(_dot_)com> wrote:

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Michel Py 
<michel(_at_)arneill-py(_dot_)sacramento(_dot_)ca(_dot_)us> wrote:
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote :
So lets stop asking ISPs 'do you support IPv6' and instead ask 'Is your 
Internet service 32 bit or 128'?

Creative. Since freeIPv6porn.com this is the definitely one of the best 
marketing attempts that I can remember.

However, I would be concerned that deciders who would be tempted by that 
pick-up line had been earlier adopters of 64-bit OS and found 64-bit drivers 
for their existing peripherals (or the lack, thereof) disturbing.

Actually, that is part of the message.

Going to IPv6 is not easy or inexpensive. And one of the reasons that is the 
case is that there has been an assumption that it will 'just happen' and that 
there is no need to consider bridge technologies.

People literally laughed at me when I said that we needed to embrace NAT to 
deploy IPv6. Today there are very few people who don't get the reasons why. 
But if you look at the efforts O/S vendors had to go through to get to 64 
bits, NAT is a minor carbuncle in comparison. The way a 64 bit O/S runs a 32 
bit program is not pretty. 



Actually IPv6 is a 64 bit Internet, not 128 bits.

Better to forget that and try to sell it as 128 bits, as nobody else has 
been burned but that number yet.

I think it would sound like twice the pain.