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Re: Unhelpful draft names

2015-03-09 22:16:19
Allison,

On 10/03/2015 15:56, Allison Mankin wrote:
As Yoav mentioned, the authors are new attendees, and the work is targeted
to an IRTF group at that. I have an acquaintance with them and hope they
aren't reading this, but how do folks think this outcry about seems as a
welcome to do work here?

I worried about that before sending my note, but decided that an invented
example was not persuausive. If there's a fault, it's "ours" for not
making the convention a bit more apparent to newcomers. That's what needs
fixing.

   Brian


On Mar 9, 2015 10:37 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" 
<brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
wrote:

On 10/03/2015 10:08, Jari Arkko wrote:
Brian,

Are you suggesting that we should try to prevent the IETF
participants from being clever with the naming of their
drafts and protocols? Good luck with that :-)

I wouldn't want to do that, for sure.

I think the current status is actually pretty reasonable -
although if Jordi doesn’t know about the convention
then we should perhaps advertise it more widely.

Yes. And the draft submission page would be a good place to
have a pointer to the advertisement.

However, I’m not sure stricter *rules* about
the file names will buy us that much. And
we already enforce the use of draft-ietf-* only
for adopted documents, which I think is the useful
case.

I wouldn't go further than having the tool throw up an
"Are you sure?" dialogue box if it sees a name with only
one component after "draft-".

    Brian

Personally, I look at the drafts that are discussed
on the list or are on the agenda, not because they
have someone’s name on them… in any case,
given that there are usually multiple authors,
looking for interesting material based on
someone’s last name isn’t really going to
work on merely based on the file name. Similarly,
often there is no working group yet for a topic,
so we end up with draft-someone-newtopic-00.txt.
I wouldn’t mind a warning based on seeing
draft-oneword-00.txt in the submission tool…
but I also wouldn’t it rate it very highly in the
overall priorities of tool support.

Jari






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