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Re: [Recentattendees] IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path forward and request for input

2016-05-24 09:20:00
It seems like generally most countries have some human rights issues to
complain about. Could you please indicate which countries we would be free
to visit under your proposed rule?

-Ekr

P.S. You might find https://www.hrw.org/ useful here.


On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 6:50 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <
jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es> wrote:

In the context:

“IF” we decide not to go to Singapore, then we must avoid going to ANY
country that is against human rights, including death penalty.


Saludos,
Jordi


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De: Eric Rescorla <ekr(_at_)rtfm(_dot_)com>
Responder a: <ekr(_at_)rtfm(_dot_)com>
Fecha: martes, 24 de mayo de 2016, 15:46
Para: Jordi Palet Martinez <jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es>
CC: IETF discussion list <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Asunto: Re: [Recentattendees] IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path forward
and request for input



On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:25 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <
jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es> wrote:

I will go further:

     The same must apply for any country where death penalty is still
applied.



So I take it you oppose meeting in Singapore?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singapore


-Ekr





Saludos,
Jordi


-----Mensaje original-----
De: ietf <ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> en nombre de Jordi Palet 
Martinez <
jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es>
Responder a: Jordi Palet Martinez 
<jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es>
Fecha: martes, 24 de mayo de 2016, 14:22
Para: <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Asunto: Re: [Recentattendees] IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path
forward and request for input

+1

Saludos,
Jordi


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De: ietf <ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> en nombre de Mikael Abrahamsson 
<
swmike(_at_)swm(_dot_)pp(_dot_)se>
Organización: People's Front Against WWW
Responder a: <swmike(_at_)swm(_dot_)pp(_dot_)se>
Fecha: martes, 24 de mayo de 2016, 14:09
Para: Harish Pillay <harish(_dot_)pillay(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
CC: <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Asunto: Re: [Recentattendees] IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path
forward and request for input

On Mon, 23 May 2016, Harish Pillay wrote:

ever used. That is my world experience. When I travel to the US and
I see people carrying weapons, how am I supposed to react/respond?

Let me +1 this here, I am seriously scared for my life whenever I
interact
with law enforcement officers in the US, just from the fact that I know
they have to interact with armed people all the time and have to be
cautious that anyone they interact with has a decent likelyhood to be
armed.


http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-law-basics/states-that-have-stand-your-ground-laws.html

If we can't go to Singapore because they happen to have anti-LGBT laws
on
the books, then I suggest we do not have any further meetings in USA at
all, especially not states that have stand-your-ground laws on their
books.

As opposed to Singapore where anti-LGBT laws aren't really enforced, in
USA these kinds of laws seems to be on the rise instead of things
getting
better.

--
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike(_at_)swm(_dot_)pp(_dot_)se









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