Re: IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path forward and request for input
2016-05-26 04:12:39
I know similar situations it happened to many people. Just trying to make clear
that even the country were we did more IETF meetings (up to now), is not
respectful with many people, so taking decisions about banning specific venues
must be very carefully considered. As it has been said, there is not a perfect
venue, and we will find always reason for banning EVERY possible venue.
Do we want to follow that path?
Saludos,
Jordi
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De: ietf <ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> en nombre de Vinayak Hegde
<vinayakh(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
Responder a: <vinayakh(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
Fecha: jueves, 26 de mayo de 2016, 11:03
Para: Jordi Palet Martinez <jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es>
CC: IETF Discussion Mailing List <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Asunto: Re: IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path forward and request for input
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:22 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
<jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es> wrote:
I believe everyone knows this but just in case: Actually, even having a visa
to US doesn’t mean that you will be allowed to enter, even can be arrested
and sent to jail just for trying if they believe that you lied in the visa
process.
I want to explain one of the situations I’ve been and how this was EXPLAINED
to me in a very rude way by an US immigration officer. Some years ago,
traveling via Miami to Curacao for some LACNIC events, I was asked at the
Miami immigration desk to go to a separate room for some special
questioning. This happened to me in several consecutive trips to Curacao and
BACK to my home, no sense at all. In all those situations, I was about to
lose my next flight, specially one of the times, going back to home, which
will had mean waiting for 24 hours. The immigration officers told me that
I’m in a kind of third security check level (don’t recall exact wording).
I must say that all those interrogations were lacking of any kind of respect
and threatening me up to the point of getting really afraid, some times even
destroying parts of my belongings in my carry-on/computer bag. By the way,
my TSA lock has been destroyed also several times despite it is a TSA so
they have the key to open it without the need to destroying it, no sense at
all, and I never got paid for it, despite I claimed.
This is not a uncommon experience. I experienced something similar in
LA on my first trip to the US several years back and almost missed my
connecting flight - reached there a minute or two before doors closed.
I was taken aside for special questioning. I had to justify why I was
there (with invite letter). I was badly jetlagged after flying almost
20 hrs.There was no access to water and officers were rude. Something
similar happened to a friend whose first port of entry was in Boston.
Thankfully further trips to the US were incident free. I hope things
have improved now.
-- Vinayak
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