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Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee members
2016-11-16 19:42:54
Jordi
please take a look at the IAOC minutes for September 8 2016
Scott
On Nov 16, 2016, at 8:24 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
<jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es> wrote:
Of course, I checked all the minutes, before my first posting on this. I read
them once per month or so.
I check them again right now. I see the case for the legal committee, or
others that may have a single volunteer, which is perfectly fine then, but no
details on the others …
Regards,
Jordi
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Asunto: Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee members
speaking for the legal committee, we had one volunteer that many of us
know well - there was
no specific scoring since we knew that the one volunteer would be fine and
he was invited to join the committee.
there was a few minutes discussion on an IAOC call and I assume that the
result was minuted
but do not recall
Scott
On Nov 16, 2016, at 8:11 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
<jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es> wrote:
I understand that and the workload increase, but clearly the way to
accommodate to it, in a transparent way is to increase the number of seats,
which I believe requires a small modification of RFC4071.
I think that “common” as you say is ok, but always with a predefined
procedure, clear for all the community. For example:
1) There is some scoring to appoint people depending on their
capabilities/merits?
2) Where are the detailed minutes of that decision process, so we can review
it?
Regards,
Jordi
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De: ietf <ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> en nombre de Brian E Carpenter
<brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
Organización: University of Auckland
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Fecha: jueves, 17 de noviembre de 2016, 4:26
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<ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>, <iaoc(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Asunto: Re: question to the IAOC: new committee members
Jordi,
It's very common for committees to appoint sub-committees, within their
range of responsibilities, and for sub-committees to coopt experts.
I am not in the least shocked by this; in fact given the expansion of
the IASA's workload over the last 10 years it seems entirely normal
to me. I don't think anything has been hidden, and of course the IAOC
as a whole remains responsible for the work of IASA subcommittees,
according to section 3.2 of RFC4071. Specifically "The IAOC's mission
is not to be engaged in the day-to-day administrative work of the IASA,
but rather to provide appropriate direction, oversight, and approval."
Regards
Brian
On 16/11/2016 23:38, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
All the IETF positions have rules to be selected, nomcom, etc., and there
is a great transparency on the process.
However today we discovered that new members have been selected for IAOC
committees.
What have been the rules/process for that?
One of the questions that have been discussed several times is the lack of
transparency from the IAOC, and clearly here we have a new demonstration of
that.
I hope there is a clear statement from IAOC explaining the process.
If that not happens, what is the process to appeal that decision, so I can
follow it?
We as a community, in my opinion, can’t keep going with this lack of
transparency.
Regards,
Jordi
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