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Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities

2017-04-03 16:51:53

It won't happen when travelling between two "Schengen" countries, I suppose.
But when you enter or leave the Schengen zone, you go through an immigration

That's a more important distinction than EU/non-EU in this particular case.

On 04/04/2017 05:50, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
I think the “border” line between what is being done in EU and US is that in 
EU this is only done under a terrorism classification ?

I can ask about this to a Spanish State Lawyer that I will be able to talk at 
the end of the week …

I knew about the UK case, but I no longer consider UK part of the EU, never 
has been “totally”, and clearly it should be considered also when we plan new 


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De: ietf <ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> en nombre de Christian Huitema 
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Asunto: Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities

    On 4/3/2017 9:39 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
    > I’m not convinced (despite laws may say it), if computer inspection, 
even “temporal” confiscation, is being used in EU. At least I never heard 
about that, and even less in my own country, though I may be missing cases in 
other EU countries.
    You are indeed missing something.
    Here is one pretty famous case, happened in Heathrow: Greenwald's
    partner detained, thumb drives confiscated.
    Here is a clip about Canada's refusal to disclose laptop search policy:
    Article 60 of French custom code authorizes inspection of anything you
    carry, can be interpreted as authorizing search of laptops or cell phones:;jsessionid=AA678D3E2AC873493D4025F33776856A.tpdila20v_2?idSectionTA=LEGISCTA000006138841&cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006071570&dateTexte=20130315
    Various European countries, including the UK and France, have passed
    inquisitive snooping laws. Maybe they are less visible than what happens
    in the US, but I would not hold my breath...
    -- Christian Huitema
    > Definitively if that happens to me in EU, I will not provide passwords 
even if I don’t have anything to hide, but just because customer’s info 
confidentiality, signed NDAs, etc. I don’t think that will bring me to the 
jail. However, in US, detention is a fact, right?
    > Regards,
    > Jordi

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