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RE: New Procmail Recipe Forum at UNIX.COM for the Procmail Community

2003-02-15 13:28:58

Sean,

I am going to reply to your antisocial and rude message.

First of all, I am not a bigot against client mailers and don't attack
people because they might use an MS product on their desktop and an UNIX
server on the back end.  UNIX.COM is run on Linux and I like to also run
other OS, why does that offend you?  Are you older than 15?  Or just a
computer OS religious zealot?   Want to terrorist me?

Second of all, if providing a new forum for posting recipes is SPAM in your
mind, then you have too much time, hate and anger on your hands.  My advise,
try exercise or a proper diet.

Third, if my opening comment of "being nice and gracious" is considered spam
by you, then you need both medication and excerise AND a proper diet :)

Joining a list to provide a link to a newly created Procmail receipe forum
is not spam, even withstanding your better-than-everyone childish claim that
when you are smarter and more experienced in a subject that you have a right
to be rude to newcomers.

You would not be welcome on UNIX.COM, because our forums, with 24,000
registered users have a rule that being rude is not allowed.  We only allow
NICE, INTELLIGENT and SOCIALABLE RESPONSIBLE people to post and moderate.

Thanks for such a warm reception, Sean.  I hope to meet you in the future to
see if you are so inclined in public, or, if it smeems, you just sit behind
glass screens with antisocial behavior.  

Sorry to step into your territory with a kind offer... I suggest a program
of exercise and deep breathing might help you deal with these intrusions
better :)  



-----Original Message-----
From: procmail-admin(_at_)Lists(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE
[mailto:procmail-admin(_at_)Lists(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE] On Behalf Of 
Professional
Software Engineering
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 2:46 PM
To: procmail(_at_)Lists(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE
Subject: Re: New Procmail Recipe Forum at UNIX.COM for the Procmail
Community


At 14:21 2003-02-15 -0500, Tim Bass did say:
One of the biggest problems on the Internet today is spam and one of 
the
best tools that is available on all UNIX and LINUX favors to fight spam is 
PROCMAIL.

This is shocking news to the users of the procmail discussion list.

We have started an experimental forum dedicated to helping people 
reduce
the avalanche of spam by sharing their procmail receipes and for writing 
better ones!   Here is the link (you must be a registered user of UNIX.COM 
to post):

FTR, you've just sent your announcement to a list which supports a 
unix-based tool, but you used the windows MS outlook program and richtext 
to do so (hint: many unix mailers are text based and don't render fonts).

I am reminded of the unsolicited offer I received from spamarrest.com this 
past week to buy their anti-spam service.

I for one would be a LOT more receptive to this new forum if you were an 
established participant of THIS forum before you used THIS forum to 
adverise YOUR forum (a dozen posts over 4 years ago probably doesn't 
count).  I'm sure you didn't mean to spam the procmail list, but to those 
who fight spam on a regular basis, your message strongly resembles spam.

It is amazing that some people fail to recognize this in their enthusiasm 
to spread the word about a new endeavour.

Let's see how it goes..... We hope the Procmail community finds this 
forum
useful and will support it.

This member of the procmail community plans on continuing to use the 
procmail list to discuss procmail issues, just like he plans to continue to 
use EMAIL for discussion lists, since web based forums are kludgy and are 
not well suited to discussions where someone might compose part of a reply 
and come back later to finish it after running a few tests.  Email works 
quite well for that.

I've also found that most web lists that offer a mail feature still pump an 
HTML message down at you (often without a plaintext version), and the reply 
mechanism is STILL via a web interface.

I might be alone in my belief, but I think I'll stick to the procmail list 
for my dose of procmail, and for where I lend my time to assist others with 
their procmail script writing.

- Sean (still wishing people had to be a subscriber of procmail to post
here)

---
  Sean B. Straw / Professional Software Engineering

  Procmail disclaimer:
<http://www.professional.org/procmail/disclaimer.html>
  Please DO NOT carbon me on list replies.  I'll get my copy from the list.


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