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Re[2]: phishing & MS MUAs

2004-06-07 05:16:10
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From: owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com 
[mailto:owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com] On Behalf Of Meng 
Weng Wong
Sent: June 7, 2004 2:25 AM
To: spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com
Subject: Re: [spf-discuss] phishing & MS MUAs

Don't MS MUAs say

  From <sender-address> on behalf of <from-address>

VM> The normal Outlook (XP in my case) says that, yes, assuming the MTA puts
VM> <sender-address> in a Sender: header... 

VM> This may or may not be the case for Outlook Express, though.

Outlook Express 6 completely ignores the "Sender:" header, and always
displays ONLY the part inside the "quoted" section of the "From:"
header (of if no quoted part, then the sender email address instead)

I just did a test of all permutations of headers with varying Sender:
headers, and every resultant email looks identical.

$ /usr/sbin/sendmail -i -N never -f christopher(_at_)pobox(_dot_)com 
christopher(_at_)pobox(_dot_)com <spfd

$ cat spfd
Subject: spfd
Sender: "test7(_at_)test7(_dot_)com" <test6(_at_)test6(_dot_)com>
From: "test(_at_)test(_dot_)com" <test2(_at_)test2(_dot_)com>
To: "test3(_at_)test3(_dot_)com" <test4(_at_)test4(_dot_)com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

<html>hi there</html>
$

Every resulting email displays only:-
  From: test(_at_)test(_dot_)com


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Outlook XP is showing the senders email address (sorry if I confused
people earlier - I *think* I recall older versions *used* to show only
the "quoted" part)

The "Sender:" (if present) becomes the "From" person, and the "From"
becomes the "on behalf of" part.  If the Sender: <email address> part
matches the From: <email address> part, no "On behalf of" stuff shows
up (even if the "quoted" part differs).

eg: These headers:-
Sender: "test7(_at_)test7(_dot_)com" <test8(_at_)test8(_dot_)com>
From: "test(_at_)test(_dot_)com" <test2(_at_)test2(_dot_)com>

Turn into this in Outlook XP:-

From: test7(_at_)test7(_dot_)com [mailto:test8(_at_)test8(_dot_)com] On Behalf 
Of test(_at_)test(_dot_)com

(it does show test2(_at_)test2(_dot_)com is some other places as well)

If other people use Outlook and don't see sender email addresses (like
Outlook Express) it might be a good idea to let us know, since I might
have messed with some settings that make my install non-default now.


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