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Re: Good Domain List one step closer to reality (actually two steps)

2004-08-13 10:33:46
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On Friday 13 August 2004 10:11 am, Mark C. Langston wrote:
I don't see how purchasing an ssl certificate has anything to do with
reputation.  Reputation is based on observed behavior over time for a
given entity.  That entity can be determined, observed, and routed
around (if necessary) without an SSL certificate.

The only benefit of buying an SSL certificate is money in Verisign's
pocket.  This isn't a "Verisign is evil" rant.  This is a "trying to
make a profit off reputation and/or trying to confer a good reputation
by spending money is an extremely poor idea" rant.

If you think spammers can't afford $300, you're mistaken.

SSL certificates have nothing to do with reputation. It has everything to do 
with accreditation, however. Accreditation and reputation are the two next 
steps.

When someone buys an SSL certificate from Verisign, they are providing more 
information than what went in to the DNS purchase, plus they have basically 
put a non-refundable bond up for $300 that they won't abuse their domain. 
If they do go ahead and start spamming, then they are throwing the $300 
away because the accreditation they bought will be overwhelmed by their 
negative reputation. If we rely on valid SSL certificates as part of our 
accreditation system, it will help raise the cost of spamming.

If you choose not to recognize the Verisign accreditation, or if you chose 
to rate it *negatively* that is your choice. The same goes for public 
reputation services.

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Jonathan M. Gardner
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