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Re: Good Domain List one step closer to reality (actually two steps)

2004-08-19 11:10:23
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:37:25 +0200, Koen Martens <spf(_at_)metro(_dot_)cx> 
wrote:

On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 03:23:47PM -0700, Dobes Vandermeer wrote:

I think another and maybe more important reason for not using their own mail servers is that these servers would get blacklisted very soon, rendering them useless.

Thanks for reminding me!  I am using those blacklists too, I think.

way out of it. Stealing third-party accredition is one option, the other is to just not participate. The next thing receivers will do is blacklist anything that is not accredited, and the extortion scheme is in effect: pay or be blocked.

I don't think that *I* will ever blacklist anything not accredited, since my own toy domain will never be accredited. How seriously major ISPs take my indignation at being claklisted is another matter.

Furthermore, on what basis do you want to prosecute spammers? Unless they sell illegal products, if they comply with the rules and don't steal domains or identities, what law are they violating ? Or, perhaps more importantly, which countries laws are applicable and which countries judicial apparatus applies to the spammers operations?

I don't think prosecution is of any help at all.

Aren't most spammers breaking laws and failing to comply with the rules, though? You've already pointed out that spammers who play by the rules are easily blacklisted.

Oh wait... as you say, different countries have different laws, so spammers can move to lawless third-world countries. It would require a significant political effort to get the majority of countries to agree on anti-spam laws, especially since individual countries can't agree on their own anti-spam laws. Sigh. Still, the spammers I hear about on the news are usually in the USA, and if they were forced to move to Nigeria they might try and find some other scam to pursue instead.

CU
Dobes




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