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RE: Good Domain List one step closer to reality (actually two steps)

2004-08-16 03:23:38
Joking aside - - if we start with some small fee like $10 , 
it is relavitely easy to allow some time to go by and then 
raise the fee by a small % and so it will gradually become 
expensive.  The _only_ solution to this IMHO is it must be 
free from day one.  It's *much* more difficult to apply a 
charge where there isn't a precedent, than to raise an 
existing charge.

Can you give us an estimate on maintenance costs for reputation service to 
prove that fee is reasonable?

Like (costs in USD of any other currency):
1. Costs of traffic                                      =                    0 
/ year
2. Hardware costs                                    =              ?.000 / year
2. Administrative costs                              =            ??.000 / year
3. Legal costs                                           =     ??.000.000 / year
4. New house for system owner every year  =    ??0.000.000 / year
5. Shareholders income                             = ?.000.000.000 / year 
                                                       Total = ?.???.???.000 
                                                                          / 
Domains servicing                                    =  1.000.000
Cost per domain                                      = ????,?? USD / year?

BTW, Do you propose flat pricing system for this service?
Will it be same price for developing countries of Africa and USA?

I suspect there is some conspiracy behind SPF/Sender-ID.
Current sender ID system support:
a) Big bulk mailers companies 
This system keeps their monopoly because this will hard for new company to 
enter email market

b) Free web-based email providers
Users will be forced to use web-interface to send emails or providers SMTP.
In both ways they will be forced to see ads or advertisement signature will be 
added.

c) Reputation service owners. 
This will looks like a robbery - "Pay us, or your mail will not be delivered".
Once your rating will decrease you will be proposed to pay a bribe to revert it 
back to 100%

d) Big ISPs. 
SPF records change latency can result in ISP lock-in. 
Also if you will be unlucky one person who use "sometimes SPAM" ISP - you will 
be forced to migrate to another ISP or close your
business.
As well this will increase in demand for static non-masqueraded IP addresses 
for all users sending emails - additional costs for
almost no value.

e) USA and English speaking parts of world.
How do you expect to assign reputation for legit emails from China ? 
For example email from mother living in China to his son-student currently 
using AOL US ?
Will you block all emails just like current DNSBL lists does : "China does not 
seem to care about spam. Blocked" ?

But I do not see users in this list. I've been reminded several times here "SPF 
is not about spam".
So why do you expect users will support this conspiracy?

--
Andriy G. Tereshchenko
Odessa, Ukraine  


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