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Re: Google's gmail.com checks spf records!

2004-09-09 08:27:16
Stuart D. Gathman wrote:

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, jpinkerton wrote:

Any script kiddie can write a script which will insert false
Reply-To: addresses in their spam, and *that* is what I thought we
were sorting out?

SPF only authenticates RFC2821 headers (envelope).  Authenticating
RFC2822 headers is what Unified SPF and Sender-ID are addressing
(not very well IMHO - I think Domain Keys has a better change for
RFC2822 authentication).

Not to waste too much breath on the issue (and not against you, Stuart, just in general), but I stick to thinking there is absolutely nothing wrong with the "Reply-To" header.

For one, "Reply-To" does not serve the purpose of authenticating where a message came FROM, but only where a reply is supposed to go TO. So, if someone used the "Reply-To" header for incoming authentication, then they were mistaken to do so in the first place.

For two, I can for the life of me not think of any "malicious" use of the "Reply-To" header. Yes, you could have a regular "From:" address, and then sneakily set the "Reply-To" address to an innocent third party. So? To what end? Certainly not to create false bounces; because those would use the envelope-from.

I read the guy's article. I was not overly impressed. It really all boils down to him accidentally having sent private email to a public list once. Well, in my experience, the opposite is much more risky: replying personally, when you really meant to reply to the public list. Especially on the more formal lists, that sort of thing is frowned upon. Professional participants are generally busy, and do not much care for being accosted in private email on issues that they discuss in a public forum.

- Mark

       System Administrator Asarian-host.org

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