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Re: MARID to close

2004-09-22 10:19:50
I think this clears the way for Unified SPF...

On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 09:31:26AM -0700, Ted Hardie wrote:
| 
| After an assessment of the current state of the MARID working group, 
| its charter, and its milestones, the working group chairs and Area 
| Advisor have concluded that the MARID working group should be 
| terminated.
| 
| The group was originally chartered with a very tight time frame, with 
| the expectation that a focused group of engineers would be able to 
| produce in relatively short order a standard in the area of 
| DNS-stored policies related to and accessible by MTAs.  The group has 
| had no lack of energy.  From the outset, however, the working group 
| participants have had fundamental disagreements on the nature of the 
| record to be provided and the mechanism by which it would be checked. 
| Technical discussion of the merits of these mechanisms has not swayed 
| their proponents, and what data is available on existing deployments 
| has not made one choice obviously superior. Each represents 
| trade-offs, and the working group has not succeeded in establishing 
| which trade-offs are the most appropriate for this purpose.  These 
| assessments have been difficult in part because they have been moved 
| out of the realm of pure engineering by the need to evaluate IPR and 
| licensing related to at least one proposal in the light of a variety 
| of licenses associated with the deployed base of MTAs. 
| 
| Efforts to reach consensus by compromise and by inclusion have been 
| attempted on multiple occasions.  Despite early hopes of success 
| after each such attempt, post-facto recycling of technical issues 
| which these efforts should have closed has shown that the group 
| remains divided on very basic issues.  The working group chairs and 
| Area Advisor are agreed that the working group has no immediate 
| prospect of achieving its primary milestone:
| 
| Aug 04   Submit working group document on MTA Authorization Record in DNS 
| to PS
| 
| 
| Rather than spin in place, the working group chairs and Area Advisor 
| believe that the
| best way forward is experimentation with multiple proposals and a 
| subsequent review of deployment experience.  The working group chairs 
| and Area Advisor intend to ask that the editors of existing working 
| group drafts put forward their documents as non-working group 
| submissions for Experimental RFC status. Given the importance of the 
| world-wide email and DNS systems, it is critical that IETF-sponsored 
| experimental proposals likely to see broad deployment contain no 
| mechanisms that would have deleterious effects on the overall system. 
| The Area Directors intend, therefore, to request that the 
| experimental proposals be reviewed by a focused technology 
| directorate. This review group has not yet been formed but, as with 
| all directorates, its membership will be publicly listed at 
| http://www.ietf.org/u/ietfchair/directorates.html once it has been 
| constituted. 
| 
| Concluding a group without it having achieved its goals is never a 
| pleasant prospect, and it is always tempting to believe that just a 
| small amount of additional time and energy will cause consensus to 
| emerge.  After careful consideration, however, the working group 
| chairs and area advisor have concluded that such energy would be 
| better spent on gathering deployment experience.
| 
|                               regards,
|                                       Ted Hardie
|                                       co-Area Director, Applications


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