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Re: Re: [IETF] Allocation of the new RR type for SPF

2004-11-23 10:41:58
In <41A36FE1(_dot_)7079(_at_)xyzzy(_dot_)claranet(_dot_)de> Frank Ellermann 
<nobody(_at_)xyzzy(_dot_)claranet(_dot_)de> writes:

Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:

Unfortunately, we have currently two drafts:

Actually there are more, James has something published in May.
For a more or less complete list (but not only about SPF) see
<http://purl.net/xyzzy/home/test/>

The one James referred to is spf-draft-200405.txt, which is
(surprise!) the version of the classic SPF draft right before
spf-draft-200406.txt.

Your list is far from complete, as far as old SPF drafts go.  I have
the copies of the following SPF drafts easily available, and probably
several more if I dig around:

Oct 14 17:04 draft-lentczner-spf-00.xml
May 16  2004 draft-mengwong-spf-01.txt
May 16  2004 spf-draft-200406.txt
May 10  2004 spf-draft-200405.txt
Apr 25  2004 spf-draft-200404.txt
Apr 21  2004 spf-draft-200403.txt
Feb 22  2004 spf-draft-20040209.txt
Feb 11  2004 draft-mengwong-spf-00.txt
Feb  7  2004 draft-mengwong-spf.02.9.6.txt
Jan 30  2004 draft-mengwong-spf.02.9.5d.txt
Jan 29  2004 draft-mengwong-spf.02.9.5c.txt
Jan 26  2004 draft-mengwong-spf.02.9.5b.txt
Jan 17  2004 draft-mengwong-spf.02.9.txt.gz
Jan 17  2004 draft-mengwong-spf.02.9.5.txt
Dec 16  2003 draft-mengwong-spf.02.9.4a.txt.gz
Dec 14  2003 draft-mengwong-spf.02.9.4.txt.gz
Dec 11  2003 draft-mengwong-spf.02.9.3.txt.gz
Nov 13  2003 draft-mengwong-spf.02.6.txt.gz


draft-schlitt-spf-00

Obsolete, schlitt-spf-01 is state of the art, and not yet
ready.  It's also not yet backed by the "council", because
the "council" does not yet exist.

I agree, both on it not being final, and needing backing by the
consensus of the community before I try shifting to be something more
than libspf2 doc.  If/when that shift happens, I expect more community
feedback on several issues that I've so far glossed over and ignored.

I'll try and get an schlitt-spf-02 out with another stab at
the Received-SPF: parts soon.  I'm looking for comments in this
draft.  See:

http://archives.listbox.com/spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com/200411/0885.html
http://archives.listbox.com/spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com/200411/0929.html

review draft-lentczner-spf-00 and the hell with its
weaknesses.

As far as the SPF RR is concerned it's fine.  But Wayne
replaced SPF by TXT everywhere, therefore this is no more
option... :-(

I didn't replace SPF with TXT everywhere, just many places.  I added
stuff to show that people should publish both, just like the spec ays.
Personally, I don't think that exclusively using a DNS RR in the spec
that won't exist on most people's name servers for many months or
years is very productive.  I think a more balanced approach is
appropriate. 



-wayne


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