David MacQuigg wrote:
[my typo, I buy a B in leibzon, hammering on N damaged B]
spf2.0/submit: draft-leizon-responsible-submitter-00 (expired)
Is there somewhere buried in this long history an abandoned
neutral ID we could resurrect?
LMAP was an ASRG result and used as input for MARID, it listed
and explained various concepts like CSV, MTAMARK, RMX, and SPF.
<http://www.taugh.com/draft-irtf-asrg-lmap-discussion-01.txt>
Then MS added Caller-ID to the MARID agenda... One day later
the ASRG co-chair resigned. One day later I filed an IPR note
about the missing patent disclosure. Five (?) days later MS
submitted "something" about their patent / license. Four (?)
months later the Sender-ID patent claim was published, compare
<http://tinyurl.com/6lczr> Some days later MARID was closed.
I'm planning on making it an ESMTP extension.
That works for EHLO client + 2xx okay I support x, y, z, help.
Where either x, y, or z is what you plan. Then the client is
free to use x, y, or z. Otherwise it doesn't work:
1 - client starts with HELO => no ESMTP, no x, y, or z.
2 - EHLO, but server says "bad command" after EHLO => RSET + 1
3 - client doesn't know x, y, or z, and therefore doesn't use it
You're talking about a smart forwarder, that excludes (1). But
the other side (2) may not offer x, y, or z, then you're lost.
Worldwide update => FUSSP => forget it.
So SRS could provide a neutral ID? Interesting. I wonder if
the SPF haters will let this happen?
SRS is a Sender address Rewriting System, you could use it for
whatever you like, e.g. in an ANON server. It's no "ID", it
is a sort of encoded address, like BATV. I'm lost with SES,
ask James or Stuart on the SES list what it exactly is. Ask
them for an US ASCII Internet Draft (not here on this list ;-)
I still like the clean and simple ID syntax better
You could call it SPID MTP and ask for a new port number for
this new Simple Plus ID Mail Transfer Protocol. Mail existed
before SMTP, it will also exist after SMTP (if SPF / DK / IM
etc. fail to save SMTP, or if SpamCop kills it, or what else)
While you invent and deploy SPID MTP, a serious kind of FUSSP,
we still have some immediate v=spf1 problems here on this list.
Bye, Frank