Dear Liam Quin,
Thank you for your reply.
Your comment referred to the company Antenna House. Your description may
be true.
For your understanding I am only a application developer and I am not
concerned to actual development of Antenna House Formatter.
All of my questions or opinions are personal and they does not represent
the intention of company.
Several major book publishers are using CSS-like solutions - including
Antenna House's, which adds some 200 custom properties that are not
really part of CSS, >and including YesLogic's PrinceXML formatter which
is more limited in some ways but handles XML, not just XHTML, and
supports OpenType.
There's a lot of pressure on CSS and on browser vendors from ebook
publishers (and ebook user communities), so the CSS Working Group
participants are >starting to take what they call paged media much more
seriously.
Yes, I know that several publishers like O'Reilly has moved from XSL-FO
to CSS. And eBook publisher will have lots of requests for CSS because
epub stand on the HTML5 technology. However I have basic question. What
is the *MOST* fundamental benefit of CSS technology comparing XSL-FO in
paged media?
If an paper media and eBook media coexists for the moment, is CSS most
suitable for this situation?
I have been engaged developing stylesheets that converts various XML
documents into XSL-FO. I know that there are many challenges left in
automatic document formatting world. So I think it is not a good news
for the XSL-FO users that W3C stop developing XSL2.0.
Regards,
(2013/11/02 1:48), Liam R E Quin wrote:
Subject: Re: [xsl] xsl 2.0?
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From: Liam R E Quin (li(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_)(_at_)w3(_dot_)org)
Date: Nov 2, 2013 1:48:29 am
List: com.mulberrytech.lists.xsl-list
On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 16:23 +0900, Toshihiko Makita wrote:
1. Did W3C determine to discontinue developing XSL-FO 2.0 for the
feature? 2. What is the main cause that XSL-FO 2.0
(http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-xslfo20-20120117/) has been failed?
We have closed the Working Group because not enough people were taking
part.
We do know that users were requesting new features. I was told
afterwards that Antenna House has implemented some of the 2.0 draft
features - their customers really wanted them. But none of the
commercial XSL-FO implementers were coming to meetings. I understand
in the case of Antenna House that there were/are language
difficulties, of course.
A W3C specification must have multiple implementations to become a
Recommendation, and it wasn't clear that would ever happen for XSL-FO
2.0.
3. I beleive that XSL-FO is most suitable techinology for formatting
XML documents. Does CSS techinology become the complete alternative of
the XSL-FO?
No, as Dave Pawson said, not yet.
But CSS is changing very fast.
Several major book publishers are using CSS-like solutions - including
Antenna House's, which adds some 200 custom properties that are not
really part of CSS, and including YesLogic's PrinceXML formatter which
is more limited in some ways but handles XML, not just XHTML, and
supports OpenType.
There's a lot of pressure on CSS and on browser vendors from ebook
publishers (and ebook user communities), so the CSS Working Group
participants are starting to take what they call paged media much more
seriously.
There's also increased activity within the Member-only part of W3C,
especially in the new digital publishing activity (www.w3.org/dpub).
Liam
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