At 12:34 AM -0400 4/30/03, Ken Hirsch wrote:
From: "Kee Hinckley" <nazgul(_at_)somewhere(_dot_)com>
At 7:48 PM -0400 4/29/03, Ken Hirsch wrote:
>Well if there really are ISPs that don't provide SMTP service, you
>can contract with
>someone else to do it. There may be a slight expense, but it
would be pretty
I'm sorry. You need to go off and look at real world email use
before you blithely make statements like that. Pandora's box is
open. People run their own mail servers. You aren't going to put it
back. Put some rational restrictions on them, yes. But you aren't
going to take it away or suddenly charge them thousands of dollars.
It's a one-line change to a Sendmail configuration to forward all mail through
another SMTP server. It's no big deal. It's not a hardship. We don't need
hundreds of thousands of SMTP servers doing point to point connections.
I'm not talking about the technical difficulty. I'm talking about
the complete infeasibility of this solution from a business
standpoint. It's an absolute non-starter. Have you ever done any
work in the commercial email business?
Off the top of the head.
- I don't want my ISP to be able to see who I am sending email to.
- I want connections between my mail server and certain peers to be
encrypted and/or verified.
- I want my spam filters, not my ISPs.
- I want my virus filters, not my ISPs.
- I don't want to be limited by my ISPs rate limiting.
- I want my outbound mail to be authenticated (if we ever get to the
point where that is possible) using my domain and my standards--not
my ISPs.
- Current end-user SMTP solutions (e.g. smtp.com) are rate limited.
- Current multi-user SMTP solutions are significantly more expensive
than running your own server.
There is no point in making a proposal which starts off with the
assumption that you are going to add major costs to millions of small
businesses and organizations, remove functionality and control from
millions of small businesses and organizations, and assume the
creation of an entire new industry to support them. Never mind that
the existing MTA vendors would not exactly be pleased to see their
customer base suddenly shrink by several orders of magnitude. I'm
sure the ASP folks would love the idea--but it's not going to happen.
--
Kee Hinckley
http://www.messagefire.com/ Junk-Free Email Filtering
http://commons.somewhere.com/buzz/ Writings on Technology and Society
I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
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