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[Asrg] 6. Solutions - Replacing SMTP - GIEIS Analysis

2003-07-06 08:19:32
This post relates to the 'GIEIS' system. The release version is 0.005 and details job creations of up to 2.26 Million. The 'GIEIS' system can be viewed here:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/giza.necropolis


Mark McCarron.


From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com>
To: "'Mark McCarron'" <markmccarron_itt(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>, "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com>, asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [Asrg] 6. Solutions - Replacing SMTP - GIEIS Analysis
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 06:19:42 -0700

> This post relates to the 'GIEIS' system

This one does not.


> \xA9 Including intellectual copyright, Mark McCarron 2003, All
> rights reserved

By posting in this forum you are agreeing to abide by the IRTF
IPR policy (such as it is). There is no such thing as intellectual
copyright.

If you do not want to accept the IPR policy of the group then
stop posting here.


Mark's Response:

'GIEIS' is well legally protected. Just because the system is discussed here, does not mean it gives away any rights. Just because you can talk about MS Outlook Express does not mean you own it or can use any of its features.

Also, I think you are more worried that 'GIEIS will result in the closure of Verisign as its services would be completely redundant.



> Trying to impose their values ond legal systems on other
> countries has been
> a favorite with these two, however, as yet, unsucessful.
> Many claims are
> made but none have been upheld.

Ex-President Noriega of Panama is in jail in Florida as a result of an extra
teritorial judgement.


Mark's Response:

Yes, and the US is also holding about 600 in a 'legal blackhole', doesn't make it legal to the rest of the world.




>I am aware of these type of scenarios, however, the simplist solution is to

>avoid the country in question.  Nothing can be done about that.

The simplest solution would be to avoid GIEIS and anyone promoting similar
schemes.

> This was due to violations of International law, quite different.

The extrateritorial application of national law *is* International law.


Mark's Response:

No, International law is quite seperate from National law. They do, however, have similar laws. Also, I don't see any country in the world obtaining an extradition warrant for a port scan.


Mark McCarron
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/giza.necropolis

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