At 4/2/2004 01:18 Wednesday, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
> Phill, I think that you are making the almost usual mistake
> here in this
> group that you assume that everybody on the internet has an
> idea what they
> are doing.
Actually this is ny main complaint about the IETF establishment.
They still think they have a right to control the future of the net
but they simply don't care about the ordinary user.
Suppose that is the price we pay with education - we expect others to have
the same level of knowledge and that they understand us and our reasoning.
> These days are over. Since about 10 years people using the
> internet have not a single idea about the technical side of it.
> 99.9% of all mail users would be more than happy when their
> ISP would do anything to suppress their spam.
All I think is necessary here is for the ISP to
* Tell the end user what they are doing
* Give the user an opportunity to opt out or select different
settings
I think that it would be OK to require ISPs to get consent from
the end user.
Why? Would you ask your ISP to get consent when they limit bandwidth usage?
Did anybody ever do it? So why expect it for mail? Most users wouldnt even
know what to answer when confronted with the problem.
Sure, as "experienced" user we expect to have a choice, to have the freedom
to use what we like/prefer/used to use. But most cases we just accept it -
either because we have no way to complain or make a difference as a single
entity, or because it just happens and we dont realize it immediately.
In any other area we accept that there are rules, standards, changes, laws
which govern it. We are used to it. In software everything goes, everybody
does what seems fit. That is a point to start a change.
What I want to avoid here is a situation where a Rupert Murdoch could
decide to only allow political groups that agree with Fox News to
send mail to customers.
The same happens everyday, everywhere. Take for example SMS messages
between different operators. Its often not even possible to send a SMS from
operator A to someone using operator B. Why? Surely not because of
technical reasons. The whole GSM mobile market is a good example of how a
few rule millions. What is there that these millions can do for/against it?
Andreas
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