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Re: [Asrg] We don't need no stinkin IMAP or POP, was Adding a spam button to MUAs

2010-02-06 11:55:38
We've been talking about using DNS for some of the signalling.  You 
could specify a "_report.<mailstore hostname>" TXT record that specifies 
the address (which isn't necessarily in the mailstore's domain) to send 
it _and_ its very existence shows that the mailstore provider supports 
the functionality (and thus the TiS button gets enabled).

Right.  It would be a SRV record, but close enough.

I'm still worried about name overloading.  Never in the history of POP
or IMAP has the name of the server been anything other than a handle
to the the IP address to which to connect.  If your server has
multiple names, or no name, that has no effect on its operation.

Here's a concrete example, a customer of mine who uses the hosted mail
service at Tucows:

$ dig pop.philiphazan.com a

;; ANSWER SECTION:
pop.philiphazan.com.    294     IN      CNAME   
mail.philiphazan.com.cust.a.hostedemail.com.
mail.philiphazan.com.cust.a.hostedemail.com. 3594 IN A 216.40.42.5

$ dig imap.philiphazan.com a

;; ANSWER SECTION:
imap.philiphazan.com.   300     IN      CNAME   
mail.philiphazan.com.cust.a.hostedemail.com.
mail.philiphazan.com.cust.a.hostedemail.com. 3590 IN A 216.40.42.5

Their POP and IMAP servers have thousands of different names, one for
each hosting customer.  If we do a DNS hack, each of those thousands
of customers has to add something to its DNS.  If we do something
where the MDA adds a header, one software upgrade would make it work
for everyone.

This is a common way to set up a mail system for hosting services.  So
you tell me, which approach is "simpler"?

R's,
John
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