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Re: Why we should choose the RFC2821 MAIL FROM/HELO identities

2004-03-31 15:02:30

Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:


Layers are tools for design, as well as analysis.  Collapsing layers
requires very, very careful attention to the implications.


When you are dealling with a twenty year old protocol you are likely
to find that the reason it is failing is that the original layering
design was inappropriate for current uses.


I am not sure this is true in this case. The problem is one of trust and it has nothing to do with layers. If we have a system in place to somehow exchange trust information about MTAs there is no reason to mix layers.

This is why I think that HELO checking might be sufficient. Many people have already stated that MAIL FROM without a reputation/accreditation hook is useless. A HELO mechanism would provide such hook without a need to some of the more painful changes involved with MAIL FROM and RFC2822 checking. Once you establish trust of a given MTA, than you can trust it to supply you with non-forged information.

Yakov



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