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Re: Recap: Re: rfc2821bis-03: Issue 31: Retain new FTP comparison text in 4.2.1

2007-04-29 21:03:18

Tony Hansen wrote:
The consensus on this text

  It is worth noting that the file transfer protocol (FTP [35]) uses a
  very similar code architecture and that the SMTP codes are based on
  the FTP model.  However, SMTP uses a one-command, one-response model,
  while FTP is asynchronous and the 1yz codes are not part of the SMTP
  model.

is almost dead even. I'll leave this one open for two more days, then
give a consensus call. If it remains even, it will become "editor's choice".

This is all minor to me so I can go either way, but........

I voted for the removal on the basis that the 1yz is no longer part of the spec and that throwing in 1yz may raise more questions than not for new developers, especially those who only interest is SMTP and have not other protocol perspective to lean on.

I believe, if I read John right, it was stated as such to explain the removal of 1yx - "where did it go?" In my view, that is more logical if the 1yz description was not removed. In this case, as it is stated, it makes more sense to explain why it should only be used for extensions.

Alternatively, IMO, I think it is may be more acceptable if a rewording was stated as a theory basis in section 4.2.1 as the initial paragraph.

Example:

  4.2.1.  Reply Code Severities and Theory

  SMTP inherits the reply code model and theory from the file
  transfer protocol (FTP [35]).  However, as described in this
  section, only specific reply-code ranges are acceptable.

or

  4.2.1.  Reply Code Severities and Theory

  The SMTP reply code model uses a similar C/S (client/server)
  command response architecture that is based on early
  C/S protocol designs such as file transfer protocol (FTP [35]).

I like the latter because it makes no assertion that the SMTP reply codes are based on FTP, but based on similar frameworks such as FTP.

I think the overall issue is that no assertion or implication should be made to the reader that he/she should research FTP to understand SMTP better.

My opinion, of course.

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HLS