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Re: [ietf-smtp] Reject messages on backup mail exchangers when primary MX is online

2013-02-24 02:58:02
Hi Hector,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

There is nothing that says one is better than the other.  All it is is a
pool for the sender to use.  The preference is just that, a "hint" for
the sender to begin with.   The sender concern is delivering the mail to
the destination - period.  How the host farm of receivers is
inconsequential.

That is not consistent with RFC 5321: "MX records contain a preference
indication that MUST be used in sorting if more than one such record
appears". [ http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5321 ]  So the receiving party
can expect that the MX with the lowest preference number is tried first
by a well-behaved sender. If you want "just a pool", give them all the
same preference number.

Also consider the advent of GreyListing Servers where the first attempt
is automatically rejected with the expectation there would be a 2nd
attempt by the client.   There is not concrete rule that says what each
MX  expanded set of IP means to the sender other than they represent a
pool of available servers.

That is true, although personally I don't like GreyListing that much.
[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting#Disadvantages ]

If a host has its own "special" rules for filtering/moving data
differently, then thats on it only.  Senders has no idea or guideline
there other than the preference order but that should NOT make a
different what the actual order of machine calls is.  They all must
ultimately do what is expected, delivery/relay the message to the target
address.

Yes it MUST make a difference in the actual order of machines tried by
the sender, see RFC 5321. Of course the actual result can diverge from
what is tried.

I think the "backup" concern was basically a secondary connection
concept - a 2nd place to go just in case the first machine was down or
that connection was failing.

Indeed. All I really wanted was something to punish senders that do not
even try to send their mail to the MX with the lowest preference number.

Regards,
Evert
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