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Re: [ietf-smtp] [Shutup] Proposed Charter for the "SMTP Headers Unhealthy To User Privacy" WG (fwd)

2015-12-13 00:23:32
At 11:30 -0500 on 12/12/2015, Hector Santos wrote about Re: [ietf-smtp] [Shutup] Proposed Charter for the "SMTP Hea:

On 12/3/2015 8:29 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
At 13:40 -0500 on 12/03/2015, Hector Santos wrote about Re:
[ietf-smtp] [Shutup] Proposed Charter for the "SMTP Hea:

Personally, If the WG is created, it should also consider looking at
reducing redundancy and the major RFC5322 overhead in electronic mail
that already exist.   Many headers are simply not needed at all and
many do leak all sorts of user information.

Which headers do you regard as "not needed" and which leak user info?
For the latter, please indicate if the header's existence in a message
is under the control of the user's MUA.

Hi Robert,

Taking a step back, at a minimum, based on the history of the mail systems in my multi-network 30+ years of design, developing, marketing and support experience of mailers (MSA/MDA/MTA, gateways) and readers/writers (MUAs), again, at a minimum, all that was needed were:

THANK YOU VERY MUCH for taking the time and effort to issue the detailed reply to my query. I now have a much better idea of your views on leaking and headers. Due to email and handling there of has evolved, we must live with the result and things that would have been done and/or supported if the system had been designed from scratch are not possible. Note that this comment is not intended to imply we should start all over with a replacement email infrastructure but just acknowledging the situation. All things considered I think we have done a great job of evolving the original text-only email system to what we have now (MIME Support being a good example).

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