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Re: [ietf-smtp] [Shutup] Proposed Charter for the "SMTP Headers Unhealthy To User Privacy" WG (fwd)

2015-12-02 04:04:25
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In message <20151201234708(_dot_)GA6229(_at_)lapsedordinary(_dot_)net>, Martijn 
<martijn(_at_)lapsedordinary(_dot_)net> writes

On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 09:10:20PM +0000, Richard Clayton wrote:
If you want to have very limited data in your email header fields then
you should look at the systems that you operate yourself and clean up
the information at that point. You'll probably get a poorer delivery
experience when sending to MAGY and others -- but that's your tradeoff.

Sure, making such changes on your own is probably going to hurt more
than it helps. Which seems a good argument in favour of some kind of

I think you have misunderstood my point (which Chris Lewis also made)... 

If you discard all the data that identifies that you were the origin of
this email then your previous good reputation will not count towards
ensuring that another email from you is treated favourably.

It doesn't matter a jot whether or not that discarding is done on the
basis of the rules set out in an RFC or otherwise.

or at least a WG discussing whether one is needed.

you should note that IP addresses acquire reputation because of the
prefix they are within, because of the AS that announces that prefix and
because of the country that AS operates from...   replacing an IP with a
blob will remove those opportunities for you to inherit some kudos from
your neighbours and fellow citizens

this WG is going to have to come with something fairly clever to avoid
making things worse  (and please don't forget about loop prevention)

- -- 
richard                                                   Richard Clayton

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary 
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin 11 Nov 1755

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