Re: Welcoming newcomers

        I was not present so I could not clarify.  It does seem pretty
        clear that these days, "bad-ideas" are often floated and experimented
        with in other venues and only after vetting are brought to the IETF
        for standards approval/rubber stamping. 

in my experience, plenty of bad ideas survive such "vetting".
but those who bring them to IETF still expect the rubber stamp.