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Re: myth of the great transition (was US Defense Department forma lly adopts IPv6)

2003-06-19 11:00:39
Keith Moore <moore(_at_)cs(_dot_)utk(_dot_)edu> writes:

until recently the only way I could get even one
static IP address for my home was through a special deal with a
friend of mine who had a small ISP, and the best bandwidth I could
get was 128kbps.  none of the other local providers would sell me
one.

Doesn't the fact that there's not enough demand for this product
to make it available suggest anything to you?

does the fact that there was enough demand for the product that it
eventually became available suggest anything to you?
Yeah, that there's a subset who cares. They got it. The market is
working. Why are you complaining?

so if you can't come up with a rational explanation for something,
just pretend that the market is wise and cite it as an unimpeachable
authority.

I do have a rational explanation: the customers don't actually care
at all about your fundamentalist commitment to end-to-end
connectivity.

true, customers don't care about e2e.  they do, however, care about
running apps that won't work when e2e is broken.
Apparently not, or they wold switch.

So, on the one hand, we have the actual behavior of millions of
people.

no, we have your biased interpretation of that behavior, as observed
from a great distance, through a dirty lens. 
Huh? Are you claiming that people don't 
(1) Buy NATs
(2) Use them?

Of course they do. 

I'm not sure why you're accusing me of bias, Keith. Frankly, I hate
NAT. It makes my life as a protocol designer miserable and I don't use
it myself. I just don't fool myself that my preferences represent
those of people at large.

-Ekr




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[Eric Rescorla                                   ekr(_at_)rtfm(_dot_)com]
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