Black_David(_at_)emc(_dot_)com wrote:
Ray,
Let me check that I understand your answer - it sounds like you're keeping
a 1-week buffer clear on both sides of IEEE 802, so that a November IEEE
802 meeting makes it impossible for IETF to meet in November as the
IEEE week plus the 1-week before and after buffers take out the entire
available portion of November (the US Thanksgiving holiday weekend takes
out the rest of the month). Did I understand that correctly? It strikes
me as excessive.
The recommendations to the IAOC when it adopted its Clash List policy
was to maintain a 1 week break between a Must Avoid organization and the
IETF meetings whenver possible as it would create back-to-back meeting
weeks for many who attend both.
http://www.ietf.org/meetings/clash_list.html
Ray
I can understand October being sufficiently early as to cause other
problems.
Thanks for taking another look,
--David
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From: Ray Pelletier [mailto:rpelletier(_at_)isoc(_dot_)org]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:50 PM
To: Black, David
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
iab(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; wgchairs(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar
Black_David(_at_)emc(_dot_)com wrote:
Ray,
Looking at the 2007 and 2008 dates on events.cal, it looks
like ANSI T10 (SCSI) is the primary conflict for the first week
of November, and ANSI T11 (Fibre Channel) is the primary conflict
for the first week of December. The currently proposed schedule
is first week of December for the 3rd IETF meeting each year, and
hence hits T11 every year. Would it be possible to alternate
between the first week of November and the first week of December
in successive years so that each of T10 and T11 only gets hit
every other year, or are there other considerations that favor
December over November?
David, I'll take a fresh look at it, but it's kind of hard to
avoid conflicts with T10 and T11 "Should Avoid" meetings when
there are 6 of each scheduled in 2008. The greatest pressure on
December meetings is our need to avoid conflicts by one week with
"Must Avoids" like IEEE in November, forcing us into December or
October meeting considerations. December is not my first choice.
October puts spacing pressure back to the beginning of the year.
Again, I'll look at it, but unless we relax the one week conflict
avoidance with "Must Avoids" I'm not optimistic.
Ray
Thanks,
--David (ips, imss, rddp WG chair)
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EMC Corporation, 176 South St., Hopkinton, MA 01748
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black_david(_at_)emc(_dot_)com Mobile: +1 (978) 394-7754
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Pelletier [mailto:rpelletier(_at_)isoc(_dot_)org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:59 AM
To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
iab(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; wgchairs(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar
All;
This is a 1 week Last Call for feedback on Version 01 proposed 2008 -
1010 IETF Meeting dates. The IAOC anticipates taking action to formally
adopt dates on 25 May 2006. These dates differ from the originally
proposed dates based upon community feedback, a review of meeting dates
of those organizations on the Clash List and maintenance of a reasonably
similar period between meetings. While every effort was made to avoid
conflicts where known, it was not always possible with those
organizations in the "should avoid" category. Your feedback to
iad(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org on conflicts with these dates would be appreciated.
Proposed 2008 - 2010 meeting dates:
2008
IETF 71 Mar 30 - Apr 4
IETF 72 Jul 27 - Aug 1
IETF 73 Dec 7 - 12
2009
IETF 74 Mar 22 - 27
IETF 75 Aug 2 - 7
IETF 76 Dec 6 - 11
2010
IETF 77 Mar 28 - Apr 2
IETF 78 Jul 25 - 30
IETF 79 Dec 5 - 10
Our findings of the schedule of other organization's meetings can be
found at: http://www.ietf.org/meetings/events.cal.html .
Thanks for your assistance.
Ray Pelletier
IAD
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