FWIW - if this is the case, this policy is in the disadvantage of the
participants coming from out of North America for both IEEE and IETF
meetings. We shall be obliged to do two trips instead of one which
doubles airfare costs and requires from us to at least one supplemental
weekend on the road. Having the IEEE and IETF meetings scheduled in
consecutive weeks is more convenient.
Dan
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From: Black_David(_at_)emc(_dot_)com
[mailto:Black_David(_at_)emc(_dot_)com]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:23 AM
To: rpelletier(_at_)isoc(_dot_)org
Cc: wgchairs(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; iab(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting
Calendar
Ray,
Let me check that I understand your answer - it sounds like
you're keeping
a 1-week buffer clear on both sides of IEEE 802, so that a
November IEEE
802 meeting makes it impossible for IETF to meet in November as
the
IEEE week plus the 1-week before and after buffers take out the
entire
available portion of November (the US Thanksgiving holiday
weekend takes
out the rest of the month). Did I understand that correctly?
It strikes
me as excessive.
I can understand October being sufficiently early as to cause
other
problems.
Thanks for taking another look,
--David
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From: Ray Pelletier [mailto:rpelletier(_at_)isoc(_dot_)org]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:50 PM
To: Black, David
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
iab(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
wgchairs(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF
Meeting Calendar
Black_David(_at_)emc(_dot_)com wrote:
Ray,
Looking at the 2007 and 2008 dates on
events.cal, it looks
like ANSI T10 (SCSI) is the primary conflict for
the first week
of November, and ANSI T11 (Fibre Channel) is the
primary conflict
for the first week of December. The currently
proposed schedule
is first week of December for the 3rd IETF
meeting each year, and
hence hits T11 every year. Would it be possible
to alternate
between the first week of November and the first
week of December
in successive years so that each of T10 and T11
only gets hit
every other year, or are there other
considerations that favor
December over November?
David, I'll take a fresh look at it, but it's kind of
hard to avoid conflicts with T10 and T11 "Should Avoid" meetings when
there are 6 of each scheduled in 2008. The greatest pressure on
December meetings is our need to avoid conflicts by one week with "Must
Avoids" like IEEE in November, forcing us into December or October
meeting considerations. December is not my first choice. October puts
spacing pressure back to the beginning of the year.
Again, I'll look at it, but unless we relax the one week
conflict avoidance with "Must Avoids" I'm not optimistic.
Ray
Thanks,
--David (ips, imss, rddp WG chair)
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David L. Black, Senior Technologist
EMC Corporation, 176 South St., Hopkinton, MA
01748
+1 (508) 293-7953 FAX: +1 (508)
293-7786
black_david(_at_)emc(_dot_)com Mobile: +1 (978)
394-7754
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Pelletier
[mailto:rpelletier(_at_)isoc(_dot_)org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:59 AM
To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
iab(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; wgchairs(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010
IETF Meeting Calendar
All;
This is a 1 week Last Call for feedback
on Version 01 proposed 2008 -
1010 IETF Meeting dates. The IAOC
anticipates taking action to formally
adopt dates on 25 May 2006. These dates
differ from the originally
proposed dates based upon community
feedback, a review of meeting dates
of those organizations on the Clash List
and maintenance of a reasonably
similar period between meetings. While
every effort was made to avoid
conflicts where known, it was not always
possible with those
organizations in the "should avoid"
category. Your feedback to
iad(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org on conflicts with these
dates would be appreciated.
Proposed 2008 - 2010 meeting dates:
2008
IETF 71 Mar 30 - Apr 4
IETF 72 Jul 27 - Aug 1
IETF 73 Dec 7 - 12
2009
IETF 74 Mar 22 - 27
IETF 75 Aug 2 - 7
IETF 76 Dec 6 - 11
2010
IETF 77 Mar 28 - Apr 2
IETF 78 Jul 25 - 30
IETF 79 Dec 5 - 10
Our findings of the schedule of other
organization's meetings can be
found at:
http://www.ietf.org/meetings/events.cal.html .
Thanks for your assistance.
Ray Pelletier
IAD
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