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Re: are we willing to do change how we do discussions in IETF?

2006-06-24 06:06:17
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:26:23 +0200
Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch(_at_)muada(_dot_)com> wrote:

On 24-jun-2006, at 4:26, Keith Moore wrote:

IETF is already plunging toward irrelevance at terminal velocity.   The
only way to arrest the descent is for it to start producing better
quality and  more relevant specifications.  A good start would be for
it to actually pay some  attention to the problem definition and rough
specification phases  and to conduct them in an environment where they
can get meaningful review outside of a narrow community.

I don't think the solution is more hoops to jump through. Unless I'm  
mistaken, the IESG already has significant lattitude in rejecting  
protocols or imposing additional requirements. 

By the time IESG gets around to reviewing things, more often than not
it's too late to fix whatever is wrong.   What we need to arrange is that the 
significant review happens earlier, when the WG is still functional.  By the 
time the final review rolls around it should mostly be a formality - assuming, 
of course, that the WG has not changed things significantly since earlier 
reviews.

Keith

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