Re: IETF privacy policy - update

On 9 jul 2010, at 08.06, Henk Uijterwaal wrote:

> On 08/07/2010 22:24, Fred Baker wrote:
> > On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Melinda Shore wrote:
> >
> > > On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
> > > > Boy, would they dispute that. ITU has claimed that the IETF is not an
> > > > open organization because a government cannot join it. Most membership
> > > > organizations, RIPE, being an example, have a definition of how someone
> > > > can become a member (members of RIPE are companies and pay a fee), and
> > > > are considered open to that class of membership.
> Wait...  There are two organizations: RIPE and RIPE NCC.
>
> RIPE is an open group of people interested in IP based networks in Europe
> and surrounding areas.   There is no formal membership, work is done by
> volunteers, anybody who is interested can join the mailing lists and
> participate, anybody who pays the meeting fee can attend the meeting and
> participate there.  From an organizational point of view, it is pretty
> similar to the IETF.
>
> RIPE NCC is an organization established to do whatever ISP's and other
> network providers have to organize as a group, even though they are
> competitors, on a professional basis.  It is a membership organization
> open to everybody who meets the criteria (which is essential: run a
> network).  The RIPE NCC has an annual meeting, where the members decide
> on what activities will be carried out in the next year.  This meeting
> is open to members only, which makes a lot of sense as the members also
> write the checks to cover the costs.
>
> And to answer the original question: yes, if you register for the RIPE
> or RIPE NCC meetings, your name will appear on the public attendees list.
Thanks Henk. Let me just add that the policies and rules RIPE NCC follow are 
developed in the open RIPE process.

   Patrik

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