Just a reminder, the community VOTED for Quebec City.
Backing up Dave here, the community repeatedly VOTES or, in post-meeting
surveys, INDICATES (VOTES) for the sort of venues we have been booking.
Let me say it one more time: I have stayed at hotels for between one-half and
one-seventh the price of the IETF hotel. Instead of griping about the IETF
hotel, WHICH SEEMS TO ALWAYS SELL OUT, I save my money (it's my money!) and
stay at the nearby hotel. Who cares if the IETF hotel is expensive, so long as
I am not barred from visiting the bar?
Speaking for myself (I am NOT on the venue selection committee - I'll let them
speak for themselves), I would offer that one has to ask oneself what one is
really asking the IAOC to *do*? We find venues that are all under one roof
(check), have food near by (OK, Maastricht was a bomb, but we analyzed the root
cause of that and it should not happen again), is relatively easy to get to for
a not stupidly expensive amount of money (check), is relatively close to some
critical mass of active IETF participants (check), and have options for people
on a budget (check).
Let's ask again: what is it you WANT?
This is getting beyond Steve's "you cannot satisfy all of the people all of the
time."
On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Keith Moore wrote:
Maybe there needs to be some sort of voting system for future venues.
You'd be eligible to vote if you'd attended an IETF anytime within the past,
say, 2 years - or if you were willing to commit to attending the one you vote
on if it wins. (say by putting down a deposit toward meeting fees).
Instead of picking one venue, the committee would solicit bids from N (say
3-4) different venues within a geographic region. The bids would include:
room cost per night in the conference hotel
room cost per night in each of some small number of alternate hotels
locations of said hotels and nature of transportation between there and the
conference venue
meeting fee for the entire week if that venue is chosen
other pertinent information (like what kind of food is nearby, what kind of
facilities there are in or near the venue for impromptu gathering, what kinds
of sightseeing opportunities there are, etc.)
The committee would survey attendees from time to time and tell the
prospective venues what kinds of criteria the attendees found important, so
they'd know how best to make their pitch.
Every eligible voter would get one vote. There would be a strict deadline
for submitting bids, and a strict deadline for voting.
That way, everyone could figure his own travel costs, factor in his own
willingness to stay further away for less cost, etc.
Keith
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