Stephen,
Thanks. Now, we should maybe calibrate that in something other
than USD (maybe in milligrams of gold, or the Economist's Bic Mac
index) and also find an independent source on hotel price inflation.
I'm not assuming that it's the IAOC's fault, but the numbers are bad.
Regards
Brian
On 2011-08-25 10:01, Stephen Farrell wrote:
On 08/24/2011 10:32 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
It would be interesting if someone with historical data could plot IETF
hotel and meeting fee costs over the years since 1986, normalized to take
account of inflation and trade-weighted currency variations. I really
can't guess what the outcome would be.
Well, since you ask:-)
I was complaining to the iaoc about this last year and just this
evening sent them the attached updated whinge.
Not all you asked for but some of it.
IMO, it doesn't look that good in terms of iaoc performance over
time.
S.
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Subject:
Re: increasing IETF hotel costs
From:
Stephen Farrell <stephen(_dot_)farrell(_at_)cs(_dot_)tcd(_dot_)ie>
Date:
Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:44:13 +0100
To:
IAOC <iaoc(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
To:
IAOC <iaoc(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Hi again,
We had some exchanges on this last year and its broken
out again on the IETF list so I thought I'd update those
figures.
Looks to me like this is getting worse not better. The
original text below explains the method followed.
I would be *really* pleased if you guys would state
publicly that you've set yourselves a goal to
address this.
Stephen.
On 11/16/2010 06:30 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
Hi,
So the expensive hotel thing has been bugging me. I had the
impression that it just keeps getting more expensive and from
the attached, that appears to be true. I realise that there
are a bunch of constraints, but my feeling is that this is
not being specifically addressed and is getting worse.
From the graphic attached we seem to have started to get
more expensive around 2007 and there's no sign of us
getting cheaper. We now seem to be an inflation-adjusted
15% more expensive from the already-expensive 2003-2007
hotel rates.
Any comments, or, much better, plans to address this?
What I did:
- Go to each of the meeting pages from IETF 56-79
- Take the lowest meeting-hotel cost quoted, without including taxes
- Put those in a spreadsheet (attached as xls and O-O)
- Convert currencies using the historic figures for the relevant
month (URL is in the spreadsheet)
- Calculate the 6-meeting running average cost to smooth
geographic differences and incidentals
- Divide by figures for the US consumer price index, (URL is in
the spreadsheet)
- Normalise so the first 6-meeting average is 1.00
- Plot that giving the graphic (jpg) attached.
Thanks,
Stephen.
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