Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials

On 27/07/13 23:22, Melinda Shore wrote:
> On 7/27/13 1:38 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen wrote:
> > I think it would be really helpful/useful if working groups could
> > provide short video overviews to help people understand the work.
> > This includes newcomers and also interested observers, who may
> > include implementers.  Can that be accommodated, maybe at a future
> > meeting?  I am happy to help if I can.
> I'm sorry, but no, I am not comfortable with this.  If someone
> wants to go off on their own and do something along these lines,
> more power to them, but we have working group charters, we've
> got framework documents, and presumably people can read.
>
> I would be very sorry to see IETF *working* meetings turned into
> something closer to conferences, or to dumbing things down to
> accommodate newcomers who I gather from discussion so far don't have
> anything particular in mind.
>
> I've participated remotely quite a bit and I do think that having
> the newcomers session available to remote participants would be a
> big win (and there's something that I think it would be helpful
> to record on video and make available on Youtube or some such).
>
> It may be the case over the longer term that we've got so many
> newer participants who won't adapt to the IETF's working style
> that the IETF will need to become more like other standards bodies
> to accommodate them, but I don't think we're there yet and I
> would be sorry to see working meetings turned into conferences.
> People who attend should be participants, not audience.

What do you mean by conference? too much information inferred in your 
term that may confuse others on the list.  Will appreciate, if you can 
share bit more on it, behind the single term "conference" that you 
particularly don't like.
I agree with you that changing the working culture in WG meetings can be 
bad, and we shall not go out of the ways to accommodate anything under 
the name of "diversity".
Aaron


PS: things evolve, over the long term. it does not matter we like it or 
not. that is how it is.


> Melinda