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Re: Proper credit for work done -- on finding chairs (was CHANGE THE JOB)

2013-10-18 22:11:16
Ted,


On 2013-10-18 23:10, Ted Lemon wrote:
The most useful comment I've heard on this thread is that it makes sense to 
credit the working group chairs as well as the authors of a document in the 
document at the same level of emphasis.   And possibly the ADs as well.   I 
don't know if this would make a difference, but it's interesting, and might be 
worth the experiment.

Would this be an implementation of what you say (example built on
one of our recent RFCs)

Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)                           M. Chen
Request for Comments: 6829                  Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd
Updates: 4379                                                     P. Pan
Category: Standards Track                                       Infinera
ISSN: 2070-1721                                             C. Pignataro
Responsible AD: A. Farrel, Juniper                              R. Asati
WG Chair/Shepherd: L. Andersson, Huawei                            Cisco
                                                            January 2013

                   Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping for
 Pseudowire Forwarding Equivalence Classes (FECs) Advertised over IPv6

Note: This is not a suggestion, just a question for clarification. And
if we want to do it "this way" it is not a layout proposal. If we do it
like this we would have a second level effect in capturing the
shepeherds, wg chairs and responsible ADs addresses in separate section
following the Authors Addresses.

/Loa



But really, the main thing to say about this conversation is that it's a 
classic example of why the AD's job is so time consuming.   We have to monitor 
these conversations, because otherwise we aren't doing the part of our job that 
involves listening to the IETF.   Having long bikeshed discussions about the 
woeful brokenness of the AD's job over and over again without any action 
proposed is expensive.

Most of what's been discussed here has been discussed by the ADs during the 
recent IESG retreat, and substantial action was taken as a result of the 
discussion at that retreat.   It might be interesting to see if any of what we 
discussed actually changes anything.


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