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Re: IETF registration fee increase from 2015

2014-10-05 18:01:53
Eliot,

On 4 Oct 2014, at 4:48 pm, Eliot Lear <lear(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com> wrote:

Your own group benefited from cross area review, both from transport and
security.  Now it is true that area directors and one WG chair flew to
your interim meetings.  But normal people didn’t.

I don’t see how this is relevant; I’m not asking to avoid cross-area review, or 
to eliminate meetings during the IETF week. Both are valuable.

Regarding “normal people” — I do not think that means what you think it means...

I think you are
asking for something else, however: more time at the main meeting.

That’s largely orthogonal, and AIUI more time *is* available to those who ask, 
space permitting.

And
that I could get on board with.  It would not be easy logistically, but
I think it is worth an experiment, at least.  What if you found yourself
with 2 days of meeting time?  And how much would that be worth to you
and your company?

Two days is useful when you can focus everyone’s attention on the matter at 
hand; I’m not sure whether having such a meeting during the circus that is the 
IETF week — when people will inevitably want to duck out for a few hours to 
attend other meetings — would be useful.

The experiment to seat people differently during the IETF week meetings is very 
interesting, though.

And while I am not against interim in person
meetings, the pace you proceeded at did substantially increase the cost
of participation.  On the other hand, maybe it will be worth the
results.  We cannot yet say.

We proceeded at the pace dictated by our charter. This was very deliberate; I 
can’t ask engineers who aren’t standards professionals or academic researchers 
to invest an open-ended number of years into an effort. And, considering the 
ever-raising costs of coming to an IETF week (to return to the original 
thread), the cost of attending an interim is substantially less than going to 
the IETF meeting. 

Cheers,


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Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/