I agree. Groups should actually be free to use whatever tools make sense
for the task at hand. One group I run in ODL simply uses IRC and makes fine
progress, but another uses G Hangouts, and NETMOD uses WebEx + Etherpad. It
shouldn’t matter as long as the collaboration is as effective as possible
for the participants. If it isn’t, the WG Chairs should be empowered to make
it so.
—Tom
On Dec 11, 2015:4:22 AM, at 4:22 AM, Benoit Claise
<bclaise(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com> wrote:
Hi Dan,
I understand your arguments: cost and the ease of having a meetecho/webex
these days.
However, I've been in at least one interim meeting focused on white board
sessions.
And, even with all the good will, white board sessions and remote
participations, just don't work together.
I favor a should in your initial sentence:
"Remote participation (via Meetecho or similar) must be provided"
Regards, Benoit
Hi Jari,
I oscillated between 'should' and 'must' myself. The principal reason I
ended with a 'must' was that agreeing on exceptions can be perceived as
excluding people from the process. In the real world some of us live
justifying funds for 1-2 days interim of one WG is more difficult than
getting a full IETF week approved. Remote participation is the only option.
The 'must' requirement also seems pretty ubiquitous nowadays - it translates
into 'the host of a f2f interim must ensure that a microphone and external
phone connection exists in the room and the chairs must activate Meetecho or
Webex'.
Regards,
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Jari Arkko [mailto:jari(_dot_)arkko(_at_)piuha(_dot_)net]
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 10:02 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Face-to-Face and
Virtual Interim Meetings
Dan,
I suggest to add the following bullet to the face-to-face interim
guidelines:
- Remote participation (via Meetecho or similar) must be provided
I think that's a good addition, although I'd probably use the keyword
'should'
to leave some wiggle room for special situations. We don't need to specify
everything that the working groups do as rules.
If the WG has reasonable leadership, they will do the right thing.
Jari
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