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Re: genuine email got blocked as spam

2005-06-29 15:03:35

How many more "ANTI SPAM" prinzips i must learn  to send a simple Email ????

The idea behind this is that 99.9% of SPAM sending worms
and trojans do
NOT have a retransmit on error function, so by denying
the initial
attempt, you effectively block the SPAM...

When your server retries sending after the normal retry
period (usually
somewhere between 5 and 60 minutes) the email will be
accepted...

If you need more details, try googling for grey-listing...
HTH...


When i change the name of the local smtp host to xxx.de, .... this receiving 
servers accept our email.

resulting in a header like this on the receiving host:

Received: from xxx.de (xxx.de [123.123.123.123])
by world.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j5T7j84I015870
for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:45:11 +0200 (CEST)
(envelope-from someone(_at_)xxx-yyy(_dot_)de)
Envelope-To: 

the asian.... will not acceept 

when i send email from the web client of xxx-yyy.de all accept

with a header like this on the receiving host: 

Received: from xxx-yyy.de (xxx-yyy.de [252.252.252.252])
by anybody(_at_)world(_dot_)de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5T7jDIl015888
for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:45:13 +0200 (CEST)
(envelope-from someone(_at_)xxx-yyy(_dot_)de)
Envelope-To:
 


is there a way to got this ???

to erase the first envelope and resend the email from xxx.de with  xxx-yyy.de 
???



Matthias Haeker

mhaeker(_at_)its-h(_dot_)de

***
----- Original Message -----
From: Francesco(_at_)fampeeters(_dot_)com
To: procmail(_at_)lists(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE
Sent: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:37:32
Subject: Re: genuine email got blocked as spam


On Wed, June 29, 2005 23:11, Matthias Haeker said:
now starting this weak german server stop to accept
email

with something like:

MDeferred: 450 4.1.0 <someone(_at_)xxx-yyy(_dot_)de>: Sender
address rejected:
unverified address: Address verification in progress

or:

MDeferred: 450 <anybody(_at_)world(_dot_)de>: Recipient address
rejected: Greylisted
for 300 seconds


with the rest of the world it is still working.


What can i do?????????

can procmail help me ????



They have implemented 'grey-listing'.

This basically works like this:
1) Deny initial contact with a temporary error 4xx
2) start a counter for X seconds
3a) Any reattempts before x seconds are over are denied
as under#1
3b) Any reattempts after X seconds will be allowed and
routed to the
recipient.

The idea behind this is that 99.9% of SPAM sending worms
and trojans do
NOT have a retransmit on error function, so by denying
the initial
attempt, you effectively block the SPAM...

When your server retries sending after the normal retry
period (usually
somewhere between 5 and 60 minutes) the email will be
accepted...

If you need more details, try googling for grey-listing...
HTH...

-- 
Francesco Peeters
----
GPG Key = AA69 E7C6 1D8A F148 160C  D5C4 9943 6E38 D5E3
7704
If your program doesn't recognize my signature, please
visit
http://www.CAcert.org/index.php?id=3 to retrieve the
Root CA certificate.

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