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Re: No use of checking RFC2822 headers

2004-09-29 07:35:41
I can't believe what I am reading in this thread:

MUAs, end user software and/or mail readers/writers will display what the
Gateway, POP3 servers and/or mail hosting software decides on what is to be
displayed and what are to be the network control information :-)

I get a copy of this message via Outlook and I see the FROM: with my
winserver.support email account.  Outlook will show the user id "hector
santos" part of the complete email address:

        "hector santos" winserver(_dot_)support(_at_)winserver(_dot_)com

I read the same message online at http://www.winserver.com and I will see
"From: Winserver Support"  because "winserver support" is an actual user
account and the translation concept applies (dot to space, etc).

Anyway, the end-user software is 100% dependent on what the hosting server
supplies.  The transformation is done on the most common practice and user
expectations.

In short, you guys are beating a dead horse with this subject of trying to
"define" what a MUA will display.  It is the HOST that you got to get
straight first.

Sincerely,

Hector Santos, CTO
Santronics Software, Inc.
http://www.santronics.com
305-431-2846 Cell
305-248-3204 Office



----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Hutzler" <cdhutzler(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>
To: <spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [spf-discuss] No use of checking RFC2822 headers


On 9/29/04 9:24 AM, "David Brodbeck" <gull(_at_)gull(_dot_)us> wrote:

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:49:43 -0700, Michel Py wrote
This is very good and we all thank you, but I'm afraid that the outlook
of the Outlook situation (pun intended) is bleak. The very reason
Outlook displays the pretty name is customer request, and delivering
to the customers what they want (no matter it's a good or bad idea)
 is what made M$ successful.

So you display both.  This is what most MTAs do.

And to be fair, Outlook does show both when you OPEN THE EMAIL and read
it.
But in the list view, they only show the display name (like most clients).
I
would be concerned that most readers would see 
"service(_at_)citibank(_dot_)com" in
the
list view (phishers would use that as their display name) and by the time
they open it "all concerned about their account" they might miss the
detailed view of the 822FROM address which Outlook does display at that
time.

-Carl



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Carl Hutzler
Director, AntiSpam Operations
America Online Mail Operations
cdhutzler(_at_)aol(_dot_)com
703.265.5521 work
703.915.6862 cell

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