Koen Martens wrote:
That's OpenOffice for you :)
Good stuff apparently, I'd wish that the likes of ICANN use it.
[ ICANN's PDFs don't work with my viewer, and Adobe doesn't
support OS/2 anymore. An OS with builtin Adobe fonts, JFTR ]
the audience is mainly non-technical I expect.
Oops, okay, then you can't go into too technical SMTP details.
Hmm you are right that i should put some more nuance in the
wasted part. Maybe 'largely wasted' :)
Something like that, and still 1,000,000 domains in less than
10 months.
mention <http://spf-help.net> as the new SPF homepage.
I am a bit reluctant to do so. spf-help contains a lot of
links to tools, but not much actual explanation.
It has links to all relevant sites. Several to Spf.Pobox.Com
We also need a new wizard.
Minus the HTML-width problem the old wizard is fine, although
it doesn't implement Wayne's SPF (zone cut etc.). But for
normal users and Mark's SPF it's nice.
SPF needs this single authorative site, really. I am still
convinced of this.
I'm not, that's why I said "NO" in William's poll: I simply
link to what I like best, that's spf-help and spftools and
draft-lentczner. And if Wayne offers a link collection with
stuff somewhat hidden on these pages (test suite, his wizard,
SRS and SPF texts, whatever) I'd probably add it to my links.
But it makes more sense to do this on <http://spf-help.net>
"We" (tinw) need a new editor.
How and where are we going to get one??
If Mark stays in hiding (or whatever the problem is, maybe he's
seriously ill / on vacation / on a long business trip / ...),
and the IETF accepts new -00 drafts, somebody has to merge the
last draft with Wayne's ideas and submit it. Maybe not all of
Wayne's ideas, a "zone cut" in the draft not working with the
"reference implementation SPF wizard" would be very confusing.
the point is that james does not offer to take over, but just
does. Without consulting the rest of us.
"Just do it" is sometimes the only way to get an effect. But
whatever James or Wayne do, they can't edit the links on my
pages. And I can't add the modifier op= in Wayne's SPF text.
[ Actually he shouldn't adopt op=pra, it was only marking the
line for Meng. And the op= stuff is not exactly necessary
in a core document, like accredit= it's an independent idea ]
Perhaps I should just quit whining and ignore james
altogether and just make the site.
Sure. "Let the market decide" works everywhere, a network of
SPF sites is good. GoogleBot sorts it out, but please stick
to one spf-help.net (or tell me what you prefer, otherwise my
"votes" are lost... ;-)
especially not given the pleasure james seems to get out of
me leaving
James is James, you need your asbestos. I like some flames
from time to time, it's much harder for me to understand Meng.
And vice versa, probably.
Have fun in Brussels, bye, Frank