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Re: Clarification on "RFC Editor Note"

2005-05-11 15:39:52


David MacQuigg wrote:
At 01:06 PM 5/11/2005 -0700, William Leibzon wrote:

On Wed, 11 May 2005, David MacQuigg wrote:

I'm not assuming the problem is not inherent, or that somehow you can check the RFC2822 name against an SPF1 record.


You can check any name you like against SPF1 record. Its rather the
question of results of such a check and if spf1 record was setup on
purpose to accomodate this check.


I agree. What I like about Wayne's new wording is that keeps a firm NOT RECOMMENDED, yet allows other identities to be used under the right conditions.

          Without explicit approval of the record owner, checking other
          identities against SPF version 1 records is NOT RECOMMENDED

This approval could be in the form of a clear, unambiguous declaration of the sender's identity, with no conflicting requirements. OK: "Hello, this is ebay.com, sending from <IP>. You can check that any way you want."
No

It should be this is ebay.com connecting from <IP>
---> and then a DNS lookup on ebay.com reveals that the TXT record says its SPF record can be used against other scopes. It should never *ever* be the connecting MTA that says what scopes to use, the whole point is that you cannot trust the connecting MTA (it could very well be a lying forging spam relaying server or zombie)


Not OK: "Hello, our SUBMITTER name is ebay.com. You must use PRA to check that."
And certainly not that either, but you cannot let the CONNECTING MTA indicate what scope(s) to use, that should be indicated in the DNS record you look up.

Terry


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