Re: [Asrg] Position paper, in zipped HTML

Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
> On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 07:48  PM, Chris Lewis wrote:
>
> > Much simpler than that.  "opt-out", whether global or otherwise, is 
> > clearly only intended for unsolicited email.  Why would opting out of 
> > unsolicited email affect that which you have solicited?
> You'd be amazed at the number of people who sign up for something, then 
> complain about the spam when they get their first copy. Or forget that 
> they agreed to accept postings when they (a) went to a web site, (b) 
> registered a product, (c) name your favorite.
I'm quite well aware of that.  All the more reason that a generic 
"opt-out" strategy explicitly exclude solicited material - otherwise, 
users are faced with the unenviable position of having to either get 
bombarded with _everything_ _anyone_ wants to send them, or get nothing 
whatsoever, solicited or not.
If we're going to go the route of legitimizing _any_ unsolicited email 
and at the same time, letting anyone do anything about spam, we have to 
provide means of differentiating between solicited and unsolicited in 
the opt-out strategy.
> And these aren't deceptive forms like some sites. some are "not 
> subscribed unless they get selected" -- and I've still spent time with 
> people who acknowledge going through the forms and still say things are 
> unsolicited. (shrug). and people forget what they did, too.
> Unsolicited is a lot less well-defined than I'd like, unfortunately... I 
> wish it was.
The solution is simple (at least conceptually) - mailers of solicited 
material have to keep good records.
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