Re: [Asrg] Position paper, in zipped HTML
2003-03-16 21:17:53
John R. Levine wrote:
Are supposed to enumerate every possible permuation of our addresses
for the convenience of spammers? Even if we permit domain wildcards
(something the DMA strenuously resists with e-MPS), it's still an
absurd task, and given the reality of dictionary attacks, spammers
will still make up addresses faster than we can opt them out.
We have a similar situation - our spamtrap domains were previously used
by our company. For a variety of reasons, we "leaked" literally
thousands of variations on the theme "user@<host>.domain", but ignored
"<host>" in our mail infrastructure. Thus, any user had a virtually
infinite number of aliases. In practise, many people had as many as 30
or more get scraped and spammed. Not to mention <employeeid>@domain,
<firstname.lastname>@domain etc.
Domain-wide opt-out is crucially necessary for this to fly at all.
Enumerating even one variation of each user's email address in an
opt-out list would both be impractical (dozens, if not hundreds of
updates per day), and get me shot by Security.
But domain-wide opt-out is the most problematic getting acceptance.
John remembers our trip to the DMA...
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