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Re: [Asrg] A New Plan for No Spam / DNSBLS

2003-04-28 11:02:21
Jon Kyme wrote:


No. You have no "right" to expect anything not provided for in the
contract
you've made (with *your* ISP) for mail service.

My ISP does not control all the other ISPs. Without multilateral 
agreements in place, there is no contractual right that my ISP can 
provide me that will ensure my mail will not be blocked by the 
recipient's ISP.

Yes. That's right. Nor should there be. How can there be?


That means that e-mail will [...] be unreliable and

Yes. As things stand. 

unusable for any purpose other than spam, where you don't care whether 
or not the message gets through.

Huh?


ISPs will either work out multilateral agreements like all the other 
public service networks or they will be worked out for them and jammed 
down their throats.

By ... ?



"Best effort" implies no more than it says. A best effort may well fail.
"Best effort" is categorically not the same as "reliable".
And of course, "Best" will mean "the best that can be done in the
circumstances".

Best still means best.

It doesn't matter how many times you say it.
Best effort does not mean reliable.

If you don't want to consent to handle e-mail traffic, then don't. If 
you do, then handle it properly and deliver legitimate mail. "Common 
consent" does not extend the right to say you will handle mail and then 
to refuse. That's just fraud.


There may be issues with conveying delivery status to the sender.
This is a legitimate concern. However it's not clear to me that the 
wishes of a sender should override those of other entities involved in Mail
transport.





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