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Re: [ietf-dkim] l= statistics was 23 again (sorry John) was Output

2011-05-06 15:49:00
Hi, Murray,

On 5/6/11 8:50 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: John R. Levine [mailto:johnl(_at_)iecc(_dot_)com]
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 11:43 AM
To: Murray S. Kucherawy
Cc: ietf-dkim(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] l= statistics was 23 again (sorry John) was Output

+----------+--------------+
| count(*) | mailing_list |
+----------+--------------+
|    77246 |            0 |
|    78853 |            1 |
+----------+--------------+
That's just strange.  Most of the l= signatures don't cover the whole
body, and half of those didn't go through a mailing list?
I suspect it's use of "l=" by a signer without regard to whether or not
the mail is heading to an MLM.  For example, OpenDKIM's antecedent had
that as an option; only the evolution to OpenDKIM allowed you to be more
specific.
Except that doesn't explain why l= doesn't cover the entire body.

Signing or verifying bug?  Clever spammer replaying signed mail and
getting away with it?  Forwarders of some sort that add a footer but
otherwise don't look like mailing lists?
My guess is the third one.  The specification for what we decide is a mailing 
list submission isn't bulletproof, but is listed as:

- has a "Precedence: list" field
- has a "List-Id: field
- has a "List-Post:" field
- has a "List-Unsubscribe:" field
- has a "Mailing-List:" field

I assume this is a boolean OR list?

/rolf

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