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Re: When spoofing is.

2004-03-21 12:44:52

On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 09:38:24AM -0800, Mark C. Langston wrote:

I am not here to combat spam.  I am here to combat email fraud. Spam
is just one of many forms of fraud.

Could you list the others?  This goes back to the "[il]legitimate
spoofing" thread, and it'd be good to have suppositions about what you
view as "fraud" on the table.  Right now, I'm getting the impression
that it's any altering of the From: or ENVELOPE-FROM header.

for instance:

  Received: from e3.ny.us.ibm.com (e3.esmtp.ibm.com [9.14.6.103])
        by d01as03.pok.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2LG2lSw025428
        for <simo(_at_)us(_dot_)ibm(_dot_)com>; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:02:47 -0500
  Received: from us.ibm.com ([203.193.137.98])
        by e3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2LG2ddJ785288
        for <simo(_at_)us(_dot_)ibm(_dot_)com>; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:02:41 -0500
  Message-Id: 
<200403211602(_dot_)i2LG2ddJ785288(_at_)e3(_dot_)ny(_dot_)us(_dot_)ibm(_dot_)com>
  From: alex(_at_)slot(_dot_)hollandcasino(_dot_)net
  To: simo(_at_)us(_dot_)ibm(_dot_)com
  Subject: how?

with the usual virus payload attached.  How do I see these headers?  Well,
IBM was kind enough to bounce them to me.

I'm sure you've seen other examples, such as paypal asking you to verify
your account information.

But let's not participate in this silliness.  I don't believe you are
unaware of the many problems, so the only logical conclusion is that
you are a troll.  Go feed on someone else please.

Alex


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